πŸ†• v3 Β· TRC buzz on channels 2 and 20 Β· updated 2026-09-25, 23:30 PDT

🎯 Two rooms, two grounds: the voltage between them rides the ch 2 and 20 pairs into the Trident

πŸ“Š Confidence: moderateβœ• Not fixed yet⏱️ Step 1 takes 30 s
  • noise current
  • clean pair
  • βœ•taken out: buzz gone
  • βœ“changed: buzz stayed
  • ~changed the level
Signal path for channel 2 The Live Room wall feeds a passive Catapult Y split in the mix room. Leg A goes through the DPA snake to the Trident, where the buzz is heard. Leg B runs Cat6 under the floor and through the ceiling to a second Catapult in the mic closet, then an XLR into the GX4816, then SLink to the SQ-7. Each room has its own ground at a different voltage. Noise current runs along the channel 2 pair between the two grounds. MIX ROOMMIC CLOSET lights on: louder Live Room walltie line 2 Radial Catapultpassive Y split DPA snakeleg A Trident 88ch 2 and 20 buzz mix-room ground Cat6 leg B: under the floorand up over the ceiling pull: silentnew run: buzz ch 1, 16: clean Radial Catapultfar end of the Y lift: no change pull: silentnew XLR: buzzXLR ch 2 A&H GX4816stagebox power off: buzz direct in: clean aux outs: shift itbody near: louder SQ-7FOHoff: buzzSLink: buzz mic-closet ground voltage between the grounds: never measured Signal path for channel 2, phone layout The Live Room wall feeds a passive Catapult Y split in the mix room. Leg A goes through the DPA snake to the Trident, where the buzz is heard. Leg B goes over Cat6 to a second Catapult in the mic closet, then an XLR into the GX4816, then SLink to the SQ-7. Each room has its own ground. Noise current runs along the channel 2 pair between the two grounds. Pulling the Cat6 or the ch 2 XLR stops the buzz. Powering off the GX, pulling SLink, turning off the SQ-7, a new XLR and a new Cat6 all leave it. MIX ROOMMIC CLOSET lights on: louder Live Room walltie line 2 Radial Catapultpassive Y split DPA snakeleg A Trident 88ch 2 and 20 buzz mix-room ground Cat6 leg B: under the floor, up through the ceiling pull: silentnew run: buzz ch 1 and 16 pair: clean Radial Catapultfar end of the Y lift: no change XLRch 2 pull: silentnew XLR: buzz SQ-7FOH desk SLink out: buzzoff: buzz A&H GX4816stagebox power off: buzz direct in: cleanaux outs: shift itbody near: louder mic-closet ground
Only pulling the Cat6 or the ch 2 XLR has ever stopped it.

πŸ’‘ Lights raise it. They are not the only source

Buzz level by what is powered Lights, modem and Lorex cameras on: full buzz. Lights off, modem and cameras on: quieter but still there. Everything off: never tried. Levels are by ear, not metered. Lights on full buzz Lights off quieter, still there All off ? never tried: step 8 hunts it
Levels by ear, not metered. The modem is Frontier fiber; the Lorex cameras stayed on.

πŸ§ͺ 22 parts tested, 13 never tested, and most of the building is grey

πŸŽ›οΈ Mix room

  • Wall panelβœ“
  • Mic cableβœ“
  • Mix Catapultβœ“
  • DPA snakeβœ“
  • Trident stripβœ“
  • Trident power?
  • Pro Tools, Antelope?
  • Headphones?

🧡 Between the rooms

  • Original Cat6β–Ό
  • New Cat6βœ•
  • Cat6 route?

πŸ—„οΈ Mic closet

  • Closet Catapult to QSCβœ•
  • Ground liftβœ•
  • Ch 2 XLRβ–Ό
  • New XLRβœ•
  • Source direct into GXβœ“
  • Other GX inputs outβœ•
  • GX aux outsβœ•
  • GX power offβœ•
  • SLink outβœ•
  • SQ-7 offβœ•
  • QSC on A&H channelβœ•
  • Body near rackβœ•

βš™οΈ Settings

  • No mic pluggedβœ•
  • Phantom off, ch 2?
  • Gain change, ch 20βœ•

🏒 Building

  • Lights offβœ•
  • Chassis voltage?
  • Outlets, circuit?
  • All mains off?
  • Modem?
  • Lorex cameras?
  • Lighting PoE switch?
  • HVAC?
  • Dante, other network?
Ch 221 of 31
Ch 205 of 31
Control ch 1 / 162 of 31
πŸ“‹ Full test matrix, with test IDs
βœ“ cleanβœ• buzzβ–Ό gone when removedΒ· not tested? unclear
ComponentCh 2Ch 20Control ch 1 / 16
Microphone present (SM57)βœ• Buzz with no mic (P8)βœ• Buzz with no mic (P8, inferred)Β· NT
Mic cable (Mogami) into panel / Catapultβœ“ Clean to Trident (P4)Β· NTΒ· NT
Live Room wall panel / tie linesβœ“ Clean to Trident and QSC (P5, P6)Β· NTΒ· NT
Mix-room Catapultβœ“ Clean to Trident (P4, P5), clean to QSC (P14)Β· NTΒ· NT
DPA snake, Catapult to Trident (two snakes)βœ“ Clean (P3)Β· NTΒ· NT
Trident channel stripβœ“ Clean via mix-room path (P1, P3 to P5)Β· NTΒ· NT
Trident powerΒ· Never turned offΒ· Never turned offΒ· Never turned off
Original Cat6, mix-room to mic-closet Catapultβ–Ό Gone when pulled (P9, T2, T24). Port swap unclear (T15). Pins all green (T18)β–Ό Gone when pulled (T10, T24)Β· NT
Replacement Cat6 run (silver)βœ• Buzz stays (T30, T31). Gone when pulled (T32)Β· NTβœ“ Ch 1 clean (T30)
Mic-closet Catapult straight to QSC, line levelβœ• Buzz (P15)Β· NTΒ· NT
Mic-closet Catapult ground lift pushed inβœ• No change (P10)Β· NT separatelyΒ· NT
XLR patch, Catapult to GX inputβ–Ό Gone when pulled (T2/T3, T11), back when replugged (T12). Swapped cable still buzzes (T8)β–Ό Faint buzz left when pulled at either end (T24)Β· NT
GX4816 input fed direct, Catapult bypassedβœ“ Clean (P7, T28)Β· NTΒ· NT
GX4816 inputs 1, 3 to 8 unpluggedβœ• No change (T19)- n/a- n/a
GX4816 aux outputs (PA, IEM, monitors) unpluggedβœ• Changed, never gone, inconsistent (T9)Β· NTΒ· NT
GX4816 power offβœ• Buzz stays (T6, T13, T19)Β· NTΒ· NT
SLink, GX to SQ-7, pulledβœ• Buzz stays (T13, T25). T4 unclearΒ· NTΒ· NT
SQ-7 power offβœ• Buzz stays (T5, T20)Β· NTΒ· NT
QSC speaker direct on A&H channelβœ• Buzz (P13)Β· NTΒ· NT
Phantom power off on ch 2? Result not stated (T26)Β· NTΒ· NT
Gain changeΒ· NTβœ• No change (T27)Β· NT
Touch / body position near the rackβœ• Touch no change (T14). Worse with body near (T21)Β· NTΒ· NT
Catapult power- Passive per vendor; staff said PoE- Same- Same
Catapult bank / routeβœ• Shares a route with clean ch 1 (P12)βœ• Shares a route with clean ch 16 (P12)βœ“ 1 and 16 clean (P12)
Cat6 physical route (under mix room, ceiling)Β· NTΒ· NTΒ· NT
Room / outlet / circuitΒ· NTΒ· NTΒ· NT
Mains all-off testΒ· Planned (T33), not runΒ· NTΒ· NT
Lighting / dimmersΒ· NTΒ· NTΒ· NT
HVACΒ· NTΒ· NTΒ· NT
Dante / other networkΒ· NTΒ· NTΒ· NT
DAW / Antelope convertersΒ· NTΒ· NTΒ· NT
HeadphonesΒ· NTΒ· NTΒ· NT
Hiss (second sound)- Present apart from the buzz (T11)Β· NTΒ· NT

Ch 2

βœ“ 6 cleanβœ• 12 buzzβ–Ό 2 gone when removedΒ· 10 not tested? 1 unclearof 31

Ch 20

βœ“ 0 cleanβœ• 3 buzzβ–Ό 2 gone when removedΒ· 26 not tested? 0 unclearof 31

Control ch 1 / 16

βœ“ 2 cleanβœ• 0 buzzβ–Ό 0 gone when removedΒ· 29 not tested? 0 unclearof 31

πŸ”Ž Something on 2 and 20 turns the voltage into buzz: phantom leads, the GX trails

⚑ Rank 1 is the ground voltage itself: the driver, not a converter
Candidate converters ranked by fit score Rank 2: Trident phantom on 2 and 20, 17 points. Rank 3: Thai's hand-wired screw terminals, 16 points. Rank 4: Mic-closet Catapult position 2, 13 points. Rank 5: Mix-room Catapult position 2, 13 points. Rank 6: Trident input 2, 12 points. Rank 9: GX4816 input 2, 8 points. The GX4816 input is the weakest candidate at rank 9. 2 Trident phantom on 2 and 20 17 pts Β· step 1 Β· 30 s 3 Thai's hand-wired screw terminals 16 pts Β· step 5b Β· DMM 4 Mic-closet Catapult position 2 13 pts Β· step 6c 5 Mix-room Catapult position 2 13 pts Β· step 6c 6 Trident input 2 12 pts Β· step 6a 9 GX4816 input 2 8 pts Β· step 6b
Fit score against the 12 observations. The GX needs two separate faults, and the bad channels have moved.
πŸ“ˆ Top 10 table, with the driver and paths
#IDHypothesisRoleConfidence
1A1 + A2Floating ground potential between the two racks (open IG ground, chassis held by Y-caps)DriverHigh that it exists and contributes; moderate that it is the main driver
2C1Trident phantom on for 2 / 20 and off for 1 / 16ConverterModerate-low; turns on one unrecorded fact
3B12Hand-wired screw-terminal terminations on 2 / 20 (Oct 2024 install)ConverterLow-moderate; terminal location unrecorded
4B2Mic-closet Catapult position 2 / 20, including its RJ45 jackConverterLow-moderate
5B3Mix-room Catapult position 2 / 20, including its RJ45 jackConverterLow-moderate
6B4Trident input 2 / 20 imbalanceConverterLow-moderate
7A19 / A12 / A11 / A13Lighting current or lighting-transformer reference on the grounding systemLights-dependent share of the driverModerate that lighting contributes; low on any one mechanism
8A17Hear Back hub and NAS on the lighting PoE switch bond the mix-room rack to the lighting groundPath for the lights shareLow-moderate
9B1GX input 2 / 20 passive network asymmetryConverterLow
10A8 / A9GX aux-output loads (subs, Furman amp, PSM900s) hold the GX chassis potentialPathModerate as a path, low as a cause

πŸ”Š Loudness check: a 1% phantom-resistor mismatch with 1 V between grounds gives about -83 dBu at the input, easily audible after preamp gain. Nobody has measured the chassis-to-chassis voltage yet (tree step 3).

🌳 Test tree: 14 steps, each ends in a named cause

Test tree, 14 steps in order Step 0: Baseline recording. Step 1: All phantom off on 1, 2, 16, 20. If gone: Phantom setting (C1). Step 2: Battery recorder in place of GX in 2. If stays: Pickup on the pair: re-route a spare Cat6. Step 3: Meter GX chassis to Trident chassis. If < 50 mV: Grounds too close: back to pickup. Step 4: Clip 12 AWG GX to Trident. If drops: Driver confirmed: keep the clip, call the electrician. Step 5: Unplug tie line 2 at the wall. If gone: Wall panel or tie line 2 (B7). Step 5b: Ohms each leg to pin 1. If a leg leaks or differs: Bad hand termination (B12) or that input. Step 6a: QSC in place of the Trident feed. If QSC clean: Trident input 2 (B4). Step 6b: Swap Catapult outs into GX in 1 and 2. If moves to ch 1: GX input 2 (B1). Step 6c: Move closet Cat6 to the 5-8 jack. If gone: Closet Catapult position 2 (B2). Stays: mix-room Catapult (B3). Step 7: Unplug all 16 GX outputs, then IEC. If gone: Aux loads hold the GX end (A8, A9). Step 8: Lights off: pull each network cable. If drops: That cable is the second driver. Step 9: Pull the SQ-7 network cable. If it changes: SQ-7 path (A15, A18). Step 10: 1:1 transformer on ch 2. If gone: Loop proven: RX4M modules fix it. 0 Baseline recording20 s of ch 2 and ch 1 Β· 3 min 1 All phantom off on 1, 2, 16, 20both desks, wait 30 s Β· 5 min If gone:Phantom setting (C1)no change 2 Battery recorder in place of GX in 2hands off, phantom off Β· 5 min If stays:Pickup on the pair: re-route a spareCat6gone 3 Meter GX chassis to Trident chassislights on and off, 10 kΞ© Β· 10 min If < 50 mV:Grounds too close: back to pickuphigher 4 Clip 12 AWG GX to Tridentlisten, record Β· 3 min If drops:Driver confirmed: keep the clip, callthe electricianeither way 5 Unplug tie line 2 at the wall2 min If gone:Wall panel or tie line 2 (B7)no change 5b Ohms each leg to pin 1hand-wired 2, 20, GX, Trident Β· 10 min If a leg leaks or differs:Bad hand termination (B12) or that inputlegs match 6a QSC in place of the Trident feed3 min If QSC clean:Trident input 2 (B4)QSC buzzes 6b Swap Catapult outs into GX in 1 and 23 min If moves to ch 1:GX input 2 (B1)stays on 2 6c Move closet Cat6 to the 5-8 jackXLR 6 into GX in 2 Β· 3 min If gone:Closet Catapult position 2 (B2). Stays:mix-room Catapult (B3)converter named 7 Unplug all 16 GX outputs, then IECmute the PA Β· 5 min If gone:Aux loads hold the GX end (A8, A9)stays 8 Lights off: pull each network cableHear Back, NAS, Lorex, PTZ, HVAC Β· 10 min If drops:That cable is the second driverno drop 9 Pull the SQ-7 network cable1 min If it changes:SQ-7 path (A15, A18)no change 10 1:1 transformer on ch 2between Catapult out 2 and GX in 2 Β· 5 min If gone:Loop proven: RX4M modules fix it

πŸ“‹ Send me this: 12 items, tick as you go

Ticks stay on this phone. Items 2, 8 and 10 alone cut 48 hypotheses to about five.

πŸ“ Each step in words: what to measure, how to read it
  1. 0Baseline⏱️ 3 min

    πŸ“ Measure: Buzz audible, lights on. Record 20 s of Trident ch 2 and ch 1 into Pro Tools; gain and fader untouched all session. Note peak level

    ➜ Read: Every later better / worse is read off this

  2. 1Phantom audit⏱️ 5 min

    πŸ“ Measure: Photograph phantom on 1, 2, 16, 20 (Trident, SQ-7 page, GX LEDs). SQ-7 phantom off for 2 / 20: a lit GX PP LED proves Trident phantom arrives through the split. Then all phantom off on the four channels, wait 30 s, record

    ➜ Read: Gone = branch C (C1, C3, C4). Unchanged = C1 to C4 dead; leave phantom off

  3. 2Battery recorder at the far end⏱️ 5 min

    πŸ“ Measure: Catapult out 2 from GX input 2 into a battery recorder, phantom off, nothing else plugged in, hands off. Listen on Trident ch 2

    ➜ Read: Gone = ground loop confirmed, pickup dead. Stays = the pair picks it up: rerun a spare Cat6 on a different route

  4. 3Meter the grounds, lights on and off⏱️ 10 min

    πŸ“ Measure: AC V GX chassis to Trident chassis, meter alone then with 10 kΞ© across the leads. AC V outlet ground pin to cold-water pipe or service panel. AC V N-G at the GX and Trident PSU outlets

    ➜ Read: Under 50 mV chassis-to-chassis = too small. Collapses under 10 kΩ = high-impedance float. Holds and rises with lights = load current on ground. Outlet ground over 1 V from the pipe = open IG confirmed

  5. 4Temporary 12 AWG bond⏱️ 3 min

    πŸ“ Measure: Clip 12 AWG from GX chassis to Trident chassis, listen, record. Repeat the body-position check

    ➜ Read: Sharp drop = driver confirmed, safe interim. Unchanged = move the clip to the Catapult rack, then the Furman rack

  6. 5Clear the wall panel⏱️ 2 min

    πŸ“ Measure: Unplug tie line 2 from the mix-room Catapult input

    ➜ Read: Unchanged = B7 dead

  7. 5bLeg-balance ohms⏱️ 10 min

    πŸ“ Measure: Power off. Ohms pin 2 to pin 1 and pin 3 to pin 1 on hand-wired 2, 20 and control 1; end-to-end pin 2 vs pin 3. GX inputs 1, 2, 16, 20 off and empty: legs match within about 1%. Same at Trident 2 and 20

    ➜ Read: Anything but open (OL) = a leak. A leg off its partner = the part

  8. 6Locate the converter⏱️ 3 Γ— under 10 min

    πŸ“ Measure: 6a: QSC in place of the Trident ch 2 feed. 6b: Catapult out 2 into GX in 1, out 1 into GX in 2. 6c: mic-closet Cat6 bank 1-4 into the 5-8 jack, XLR 6 into GX in 2

    ➜ Read: 6a buzz = Trident not needed. 6b buzz moves to ch 1 = GX input 2. 6c gone = mic-closet position 2 hardware

  9. 7Strip the GX grounds⏱️ 5 min

    πŸ“ Measure: Mute PA. Unplug all 16 GX output XLRs, then the GX IEC cord

    ➜ Read: Gone with outputs out = aux loads are the GX end of the loop

  10. 8Hunt the residual, lights off⏱️ 10 min

    πŸ“ Measure: 60 s each, recorded: Hear Back and NAS cables at the lighting PoE switch; Mix Room Lorex camera Ethernet, then NVR; other Ethernet into the mic-closet rack; audio into the PTZ camera; ISP cable and any coax; HVAC off; PSM900s off

    ➜ Read: The one that drops the residual is the second driver

  11. 9SQ-7 network⏱️ 1 min

    πŸ“ Measure: Pull the SQ-7 network cable (on the lighting PoE switch in 2025)

    ➜ Read: Expected no change; leave it out until the SQ-7 has its own switch

  12. 10Transformer isolation on ch 2⏱️ 5 min

    πŸ“ Measure: 1:1 mic-level iso transformer between Catapult out 2 and GX in 2 (a passive DI backwards, lift engaged, is a crude stand-in)

    ➜ Read: Gone = common-mode mechanism confirmed and the RX4M fix proven

πŸ”§ The fix: transformers on the closet leg, grounds bonded to service

❌ Now: passive Y, two floating grounds
Before: passive Y split, two floating grounds Catapult Cat6 Trident Catapultpassive Y GX4816 buzz mix-room groundcloset groundtwo grounds, different voltages
βœ… After: RX4M modules plus one bonded ground
After: RX4M transformers on the mic-closet leg, grounds bonded Catapult Cat6 Trident RX4M GX4816 quiet IG bus and lighting transformer bonded to service

πŸ”§ RX4M transformer modules on the mic-closet leg end the loop for every channel. In parallel, the electrician bonds the IG bus and the lighting transformer's secondary to the service ground.

πŸ“… The same two-channel shape since the first week of the install

Two-channel buzz history October 2024: channels 9 and 10 buzz one week after install. March 2026: channels 2, 20 and 22, Catapult bypass cleared channel 2. 25 September 2026: channels 2 and 20, lights-off test. Grey dots mark other buzz complaints in between. 910Oct 2024one week after install 22022Mar 2026Catapult bypass cleared 2 22025 Sep 2026lights-off test
Isometric cutaway: the mix room and the mic closet, the Cat6 run under the floor and through the ceiling between their racks, each rack on its own ground
πŸ—οΈ Illustration, not the real floor plan: two racks, one long Cat6, two separate grounds
πŸ” What changed since v1 (9 items)
  • πŸ” A&H GX input fault drops to rank 9: it needs two separate faults, and the bad channels move over time 05 Β§5
  • πŸ” Trident phantom on for 2 / 20 is now rank 2, a 30-second test 05 Β§5
  • πŸ” Hand-wired screw terminals from the Oct 2024 install enter at rank 3 (Thai: “Snip, strip to bare wire, insert into connector and screw down”) 07 chat.db 1321
  • πŸ” The two-channel buzz dates to Oct 2024, on channels 9 and 10, one week after install 07 chat.db 71841
  • πŸ” Internet is Frontier fiber, which carries no shield: the modem / coax loop falls to low unless a coax service is still connected 07 item 11
  • πŸ” Ch 16 and ch 20 share a Catapult pair position, so the twist-rate theory is dead 06 Β§2, 05 B8
  • πŸ” Why the bad channels moved (9 and 10 in Oct 2024, then 2, 20, 22 in 2026): a connection wearing at one physical spot, or a phantom setting, fits. Relabeling does not, because the count grew from two to three. Phantom hot-patched through the split can itself damage one input leg, which then stays bad 05 Β§8.2
  • πŸ” Weak pattern, worth one check (low confidence): channels 2, 10 and 22 all sit on the blue 4-5 pair, position 2 of their banks, about a 1-in-10 chance by accident. Ch 20 does not fit 05 Β§8.2, 06 1.1
  • πŸ” Radial specifies TX4M/RX4M transformer modules for a mic split between two mixers; TRC's split is a passive Y 06 1.7
πŸ“š Every buzz and ground complaint since install
  1. InstallIntermittent buzz since setup; crew pressed ground switches until it worked
  2. 2024-05-24Inspector: some outlets had no ground
  3. 2024-09RodCo proposes an isolation transformer for the stage-light distro; never installed
  4. 2025-08-29Mix Room clients: buzz on different channels, low hum, unusable channels
  5. 2025-10-23Livestream buzz; Alex: “almost certainly the lights”
  6. 2025-12-01Lobby speaker buzz after Farzad's crew
  7. 2026-01-22Every Live Room outlet open ground; QSC sub broken again
  8. ~2026-03-16Channels 2, 20, 22 down / crossing; Catapult bypass cleared ch 2
  9. 2026-06-01Omni piano buzz fixed by a DI ground lift
  10. 2026-06-22Noise on the stage-right snake; ports and cables swapped
  11. 2026-08-03Handoff: loud buzz with 48 V on Live Room mic lines; high noise floor in all rooms
  12. 2026-09-04Rehearsal room hum from loose cables; Apollo on the TV's power
  13. 2026-09-09Greg: Live Room buzz on a few channels; lighting breaker off at night
  14. 2026-09-12Ch 26 buzz on the Trident
  15. 2026-09-21Elijah: both mixers clean direct in; the loop appears when both sides are on
  16. 2026-09-25Ch 2 and 20 buzz; needs the Cat6 link and the ch 2 XLR into the GX

πŸ§ͺ 8 of 48 hypotheses fit all 12 observations, and every one is a per-channel converter (B1, B2, B3, B4, B6, B7, B9, B12)

F fitsN neutralP needs a per-channel partnerX contradicts

πŸ‘‰ swipe for all 12 observations

IDHypothesisO1O2O3O4O5O6O7O8O9O10O11O12FitTie-breakTotal
A1Open IG ground, racks float apartFFFFFFFPFFFF11+1 (S7)12
A2Chassis float through EMI filter Y-capsFFFFFFFPFFFF11+2 (S7, S13)13
A3ISP entrance ground (Frontier fiber ONT, Cat5e from electrical room to office; cable coax unconfirmed)FFFFFFFPNNNF8-1 (fiber carries no shield)7
A4Lorex PoE: Mix Room camera near the sub, NVR in office, relays in electrical closetFFFFFFFPNNNF8+1 (camera in mix room, [07] item 10)9
A5Network switch ties SQ-7 network port to the ISP groundFFFXFFFPNNNN404
A6Lighting LED drivers and dimmers leak into the ground systemFFFFFFFPNNNF808
A7HVAC compressor or driveFFFFFFFPNNNN707
A8Subs on their own wall outlets tie the GX chassis via its aux outFFFFFFFPFNNN808
A9Furman-fed Crown amp and PSM900s tie the GX chassis via aux outsFFFFFFFPFNNN808
A10Missing-neutral or bootleg-ground circuits (Farzad: "rest of the building is unknown")FFFFFFFPNNNF8+1 ([07] item 7)9
A11Neutral-to-ground bond downstream, in the Outdoor / Stage Lights subpanelFFFFFFFPNNNF8+1 (no neutral there until Nov 2025)9
A123-phase distro on two of three phases: uncancelled neutral current and harmonicsFFFFFFFPNNNF8+1 ([07] item 4)9
A13Stage-lighting load raises the shared panel's neutralFFFFFFFPNNNF8+1 (RodCo confirms shared panel)9
A14Trident PSU Star Ground Link state sets the mix-room referenceFFFFFFFPNNNN707
A15SQ-7 network port on the lighting / camera PoE switchFFFXFFFPNNNF5+1 (documented May 2025)6
A16GX or other mic-closet gear on the lighting / camera PoE switch through a mic-closet dropFFFFFFFPNNNF8-1 (drop only proposed)7
A17Hear Back hub and NAS on the lighting PoE switch bond the mix-room rack to the lighting groundFFFFFFFPNNNF8+1 ([07] chat.db 17776)9
A18Console-to-PTZ-camera audio feed (1/4 inch to 1/8 inch, unbalanced)FFFXFFFPNNNF50 (existence unknown)5
A19Lighting power transformer secondary unbonded, or bonded into the IG / audio groundFFFFFFFPNNNF8+1 ([07] item 6)9
B1GX input 2 / 20 passive network asymmetry (phantom resistor, RF cap, clamp)FFFFFFFFFFFF12-4 (S1, S3, S9 -1 each; two faults -2; S10 +1)8
B2Mic-closet Catapult position 2 / 20 (solder, XLR contact, corrosion)FFFFFFFFFFFF12+1 (S1, S3, S5, S10 +1 each; two faults -2; S9 -1)13
B3Mix-room Catapult position 2 / 20 (split or receive unit)FFFFFFFFFFFF12+1 (as B2)13
B4Trident input 2 / 20 imbalanceFFFFFFFFFFFF120 (S1, S3, S10 +1; two faults -2; S9 -1)12
B5Pin-1-to-shell short or pin swap on the XLR patch at the GXFFFFXFFFFFFF909
B6DPA multipin pin fault on 2 / 20 (Trident side)FFFFFFFFFFFF120 (as B4)12
B7Wall-panel tie-line leg leaking to the grounded panel box or conduitFFFFFFFFFFFF120 (as B4)12
B8Cat6 pair assignment: 2 and 20 on a looser-twist pairFFFFFFFXNNFF7-1 (S12: twist-per-colour premise false)6
B9RJ45 jack contact damage inside a Catapult (high resistance on one leg)FFFFFFFFFFFF120 (as B4)12
B10Split pair in field termination (floor box, keystone, hand crimp)FFFFFXFFFNFF8+1 (S11)9
B11Pin-map mismatch or internal miswire between Catapult unitsFFFFFFFFFNFF11-1 (S12: one pin map for all modules)10
B12Hand-wired screw-terminal terminations on 2 / 20 (leg leaking to shield, loose screw, stray strand)FFFFFFFFFFFF12+4 (S1, S3, S9, S10, S11 +1 each; several faults -1)16
C1Trident phantom on for 2 / 20, off for 1 / 16FFFFFFFFFNFF11+6 (S1, S3, S4, S6, S9, S13)17
C2SQ-7 / GX phantom on for 2 / 20FFXNFFFFFNFF7+1 (S4)8
C3Trident phantom back-feeds an unpowered GX input through its clamp diodesFFFFFFFFFNFF11+1 (S4)12
C4Trident phantom-rail ripple, drawn out by the GX input loadFFFFFFFFFNFN10+1 (S4)11
D1Magnetic pickup on the Cat6 route (lighting feeders, LED wall)FFFFFFFPNXFF808
D2Electric-field pickup from lighting cablingFXFFFFFPNFNF707
D3Cat6 unshielded or shield open, so no pin-1 bond between roomsFFFFFFFPFFFF11011
D4A high-impedance floating node on the ch 2 path (body effect)FFFFFFFPFFFF11011
D5RF demodulation (PSM900, Wi-Fi, cellular) at an imbalanced inputFFNFFFFPFFNN808
D6Shield-current-induced noise in foil-and-drain STPFXFFFFFNFNXF404
E1GX4816 active input-board faultFFXFFFXFFFNN4-1 (S3)3
E2SQ-7 faultFFXXFFXFNNNN-10-1
E3Whole Catapult unit fault (all channels of a bank)FFFFFFFXFNNF707
F1Channel numbering or label mismatch; unrecorded channels in P13, P15, T15n/a: not scoredn/an/a
F2Bank-level cause (cable, shield, lift, RJ45 as a whole)FFFFFXFXNNXF101
F3"16 and 20 same route" means same 12-channel unit, not same bankn/a: not scoredn/an/a
F4Listening-method artifact (iPhone Live Listen by ear; "decreased" unquantified)n/a: not scoredn/an/a

O1 to O12 are the 12 key observations; O12 is the lights-off test. Score: F +1, N and P 0, X -2, plus tie-breaks.

πŸ“· Tonight's photos of the GX4816 and mic-closet Catapults

GX4816 stagebox, inputs left, outputs right, blue Radial Catapults below
GX4816 with the blue Radial Catapults underneath, mic closet, 2026-09-25
GX input 2 with a red XLR
Input 2 = red cable. Phantom LED state unverified
GX input 20 with a brown XLR
Input 20 = brown cable. Phantom LED state unverified
GX4816 rear label
GX4816 label
PP LEDs inputs 1 to 6
PP LEDs, inputs 1 to 6. Lit or not is unverified
PP LEDs inputs 17 to 24
PP LEDs, inputs 17 to 24. Lit or not is unverified
πŸ“š v1 record from the evening: the 33 tests, reversals, questions for Elijah

πŸ”Œ The buzz lives on the mic-closet leg; the Trident leg tests clean

βœ“ cleanβœ• buzzβ–Ό gone when removedΒ· not tested? unclear
Signal chain for channel 2 Live Room panel to mix-room Catapult, which splits to the Trident (clean) and over Cat6 to the mic-closet Catapult, the GX4816 and the SQ-7 (buzz). The two rooms sit on separate grounds. MIX ROOM MIC CLOSET Live Room panel P5, P6 clean βœ“ Mix-room Catapult split, P4 P5 P14 clean βœ“ DPA snake P3 clean βœ“ Trident ch 2 P1, P3 to P5 clean βœ“ Monitors (solo) buzz heard here, T1 βœ• Cat6 run pull = gone (P9, T2) β–Ό 1 Mic-closet Catapult P15 buzz, lift P10 βœ• XLR tail ch 2 pull = gone (T2, T11) β–Ό 2 GX4816 input 2 off: buzz stays (T6) βœ• SLink pulled: stays (T13) βœ• SQ-7 off: stays (T5, T20) βœ• GX aux outs PA, IEM, subs: T9 βœ• mix-room ground mic-closet ground - - ground difference betweenthe two rooms, never measured Open IG ground every orange outlet tested: open ground, N-G floats 30 to 60 V 2026-01-22, 2026-08-03 Buzz needs all three at once β‘  Cat6 link β‘‘ ch 2 XLR into the GX β‘’ nothing else (T2, T5, T6, T13, T25)
  • πŸ” Two legs from one split. The mix-room Catapult feeds the Trident and, over Cat6, the mic-closet Catapult and the GX4816.
  • πŸ” The Catapult is passive. One twisted pair per channel, pin 1 on the Cat6 shield. The ground lift only lifts pin 1.
  • πŸ” A GX input is never open. Even powered off, pins 2 and 3 reach the GX chassis through the 6.8 kΞ© phantom resistors, RF caps and clamps.
  • πŸ” Two grounds, one pair. The voltage between the rooms drives current down the pair. An imbalance on 2 and 20 turns it into buzz.
  • πŸ” Monitoring point. Amps by the Trident, all monitors, solo master, Greg's iPhone Live Listen.

⏱️ 33 tests between 20:22 and 22:04 PDT ended at “I'm stumped”

  1. T1 Β· 20:22Amps and monitors on, all monitors, solo masterch 2βœ• buzz

    “So, yeah, that's clear that that's bad.”

  2. T2 Β· 20:29Pull the Ethernet at the back of the mic-closet Catapultch 2β–Ό gone when removed

    “if you unplug channel two here, that stopped it. / Completely? Completely. No buzz.”

  3. T3 Β· 20:30Pull a second item on the ch 2 path into the GX (not named)ch 2β–Ό gone when removed

    “That also stopped it.”

  4. T4 Β· 20:30Pull the SLink Ethernet, GX to SQ-7ch 2? unclear

    “That did not stop it when I unplugged that. / That did stop it.”

  5. T5 Β· 20:31SQ-7 powered offch 2βœ• buzz

    “This is off, and that didn't take it up.”

  6. T6 Β· 20:31GX4816 power removed entirelych 2βœ• buzz

    “To power out entirely, the buzz is still there. But if I take this out, the buzz goes away.”

  7. T7 Β· 20:32Check whether GX aux outputs hit ch 2ch -- n/a

    “These are auxes. So these are for PAs and in ears and monitors.”

  8. T8 Β· 20:33Swap the XLR patch, Catapult to GX ch 2, for another mic cablech 2βœ• buzz

    “It's still there. Still buzz? Yeah. So it's not this cable.”

  9. T9 Β· 20:35Unplug GX aux output cables one at a timech 2βœ• buzz

    “none of them fully did it. Some of them had a minor effect on it, but it was an inconsistent effect.”

  10. T10 Β· 20:37Same pull test on ch 20ch 20β–Ό gone when removed

    “Does it still go away? Makes it go away.”

  11. T11 Β· 20:39Pull a patch: wrong one first, then ch 2. Hiss and buzz heardch 2β–Ό gone when removed

    “There's a hiss and a buzz. When I take this out, the buzz goes away.”

  12. T12 Β· 20:39Plug the ch 2 patch back inch 2βœ• buzz

    “Because I've plugged that back in and now it's there.”

  13. T13 Β· 20:40GX off and SLink out togetherch 2βœ• buzz

    “Which means it's neither the connection to the SQ7 nor the power.”

  14. T14 Β· 20:41Touch the box and connectorsch 2βœ• buzz

    “Still there? It's still there.”

  15. T15 Β· 20:43Move the Ethernet between Catapult ports so the channels changech 2? unclear

    “That did fix it ... that actually would mean that it is the Ethernet.”

  16. T16 Β· 20:46First Ethernet tester on several cables: pin readings jump aroundch -? unclear

    “this tester must be busted”

  17. T17 Β· 21:05Plan an end-to-end loop test with a couplerch -- n/a

    “We just need a coupler, and we need to get a long Ethernet cable around back around in the loop”

  18. T18 Β· 21:06Second tester on the original Cat6ch -βœ“ clean

    “I'm getting green on all of them. So, the Ethernet's okay.”

  19. T19 Β· 21:11Unplug GX inputs 1 and 3 to 8, keep 2ch 2βœ• buzz

    “try three 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. Okay, so no.”

  20. T20 Β· 21:14Unplug the rest of the GX one by one, power, SQ-7 offch 2βœ• buzz

    “The only thing is this and this and the Ethernet.”

  21. T21 Β· 21:17Inspect the rack; buzz louder with Greg's body closech 2βœ• buzz

    “it's worse when I'm here. I hear like a big buzz there.”

  22. T22 Β· 21:20Proposed snake cable test, declined as donech -- n/a

    “we did test a different XLR. It was doing the same thing.”

  23. T23 Β· 21:21Ch 20 pull test repeatedch 20β–Ό gone when removed

    “Yeah, 20 does the same.”

  24. T24 Β· 21:24Ch 20: Ethernet out vs XLR outch 20β–Ό gone when removed

    “Just taking the Ethernet cable out cuts the buzz entirely ... Taking out channel 20 ... Very late [light] buzz”

  25. T25 Β· 21:26SQ-7 on, SLink Ethernet outch 2βœ• buzz

    “when we unplugged the S-Link stuff, that Ethernet, it didn't cut the buzz.”

  26. T26 Β· 21:27Phantom power on ch 2 switched offch 2? unclear

    “Oh, that's cut that off, phantom.”

  27. T27 Β· 21:27Compare 2 and 20; lower gain on 20ch 20βœ• buzz

    “This actually has less gain. Did that do anything? No.”

  28. T28 Β· 21:35Source straight into GX ch 2, Catapult bypassedch 2βœ“ clean

    “direct into this into that into there, clean.”

  29. T29 Β· 21:43Find and run the unused silver Cat6 between Catapultsch 2- n/a

    “Okay, it's plugged in.”

  30. T30 Β· 21:51Listen through the new cablech 2 / 1βœ• buzz

    “Clean. / Oh, it's not Clean. ... What about channel one? Very clean.”

  31. T31 Β· 21:52Reasoning on the new cablech 2βœ• buzz

    “that would be too random for that to cause the same problem on the same channel.”

  32. T32 Β· 21:59Pull the new Ethernetch 2β–Ό gone when removed

    “Did you did this cable fix it? Oh, no.”

  33. T33 Β· 22:04Plan: everything electrical off, original Ethernet back inch 2Β· not tested

    “turn just turn everything off and see if the buzz goes away.”

πŸ“‹ Reported before Greg arrived: P0 to P15
  1. P0 Β· Since installBuzz present since the beginning of the installationβœ• buzz

    Reported to Greg on arrival, not witnessed tonight.

  2. P1 Β· Last weekMix room and Trident tested alone by Elijah with Oliverβœ“ clean

    Reported to Greg on arrival, not witnessed tonight.

  3. P2 Β· Before 20:04Two-hour routing test in the Live Room with Thomas; details inaudible? unclear

    Reported to Greg on arrival, not witnessed tonight.

  4. P3 Β· Before 20:14Two DPA snakes, new and installed, Catapult to Tridentβœ“ clean

    Reported to Greg on arrival, not witnessed tonight.

  5. P4 Β· Before 20:14SM57 on Mogami into Catapult out ch 2, into Tridentβœ“ clean

    Reported to Greg on arrival, not witnessed tonight.

  6. P5 Β· Before 20:14Panel to Catapult to Tridentβœ“ clean

    Reported to Greg on arrival, not witnessed tonight.

  7. P6 Β· Before 20:14Mic into panel, Catapult bypassed, into a QSCβœ“ clean

    Reported to Greg on arrival, not witnessed tonight.

  8. P7 Β· Before 20:14Straight into the SQ-7 / GX, Catapult bypassedβœ“ clean

    Reported to Greg on arrival, not witnessed tonight.

  9. P8 Β· Before 20:14No microphone connectedβœ• buzz

    Reported to Greg on arrival, not witnessed tonight.

  10. P9 Β· Before 20:14Ethernet between the two Catapults unpluggedβ–Ό gone when removed

    Reported to Greg on arrival, not witnessed tonight.

  11. P10 Β· Before 20:14Catapult ground lifts pushed inβœ• buzz

    Reported to Greg on arrival, not witnessed tonight.

  12. P11 Β· Before 20:14Channel survey: 2 and 20 bad, 16 cleanestβœ• buzz

    Reported to Greg on arrival, not witnessed tonight.

  13. P12 Β· Before 20:14Route comparison: 1 and 16 clean, 2 and 20 dirtyβœ• buzz

    Reported to Greg on arrival, not witnessed tonight.

  14. P13 Β· Before 20:14Speaker directly on an A&H channel (connection point unknown)βœ• buzz

    Reported to Greg on arrival, not witnessed tonight.

  15. P14 Β· Before 20:14Mix-room Catapult out to a QSCβœ“ clean

    Reported to Greg on arrival, not witnessed tonight.

  16. P15 Β· Before 20:14Mic-closet Catapult out to a QSC at line level, A&H out of the path; Ethernet pulledβœ• buzz

    Reported to Greg on arrival, not witnessed tonight.

πŸ” Eight calls flipped or fell apart within the evening

  1. πŸ’¬ Greg, 20:05: bad hand crimps, re-crimp the headsβ†’πŸ” 21:06: original Cat6 all pins green (T18). 21:52: a new cable still buzzes
  2. πŸ’¬ Elijah, 20:37: “It's that Ethernet. It's the Cat 6.”β†’πŸ” 21:08: “So, the Ethernet's okay.”
  3. πŸ’¬ Greg, 20:39 to 20:42: “It's something about this in this box that is wrong.”β†’πŸ” 21:38: “Okay, then it's not the Allen and Heath.”
  4. πŸ’¬ Greg, 20:45: “that actually would mean that it is the Ethernet”β†’πŸ” 21:08: Ethernet okay on the second tester
  5. πŸ’¬ Greg, 21:32: A&H email, the only culprit is “these two specific channels on the Alan and Heath”β†’πŸ” 21:34: “that nullifies my hypothesis”
  6. πŸ’¬ Elijah, 21:40: “I think the catapult's clean”β†’πŸ” Next line: “the catapult's dirty” (P15)
  7. πŸ’¬ Greg, earlier: no to a new Cat6 between Catapultsβ†’πŸ” 21:42: “I think you're right. We do need to try that.” It did not fix ch 2
  8. πŸ’¬ Greg, 21:34: bypass test clears the GXβ†’πŸ” Diagnosis: premature. It shows GX input 2 quiet with one ground, not with two

🧠 One mechanism explains all ten observations

ObservationWhy it fits
GX off, SLink out, SQ off, buzz staysThe passive phantom network still connects pins 2/3 to chassis
XLR into GX input 2 pulled, buzz goneRemoves the only chassis connection on that pair
Cat6 pulled, buzz goneRemoves the pair from the mic closet entirely
New Cat6 and new XLR, buzz staysThe imbalance is not in a cable
Direct into GX input 2, cleanA mic floats: no second ground, no common-mode drive
Catapult ground lift, no changeThe lift breaks pin 1 only; the path is pins 2 and 3
GX aux outputs change itEvery aux load is another grounded device shifting the GX chassis potential
Body near the rack makes it worseAn unbalanced node picks up electrostatic mains fields
Ch 20 XLR pulled leaves a residueCh 20 shares its Cat6 with three channels still tied to the GX
Catapult direct to QSC buzzes (P15)A powered monitor is a second grounded device, like the GX
  • πŸ“… 2026-01-22 and 2026-08-03Every orange IG outlet tested reads open ground; neutral-to-ground floats 30 to 60 V
  • πŸ“… Documented wiringGX outputs feed the Crown amp on the Furman, PSM900 in-ears, and subs on their own outlets: the GX chassis stays tied to ground with its cord pulled
  • πŸ“… ~2026-03-16Channels 2, 20 and 22 logged down / crossing; bypassing the Catapult cleared ch 2 then too
  • πŸ“… 2026-08-03Handoff: loud buzz when 48 V phantom is engaged, mostly on Live Room mic lines
  • πŸ“… At installCrew pressed Catapult ground switches until it worked; lift positions never recorded
  • πŸ“… DocumentedLights and audio share a panel; Lutron dimmers on control-room and iso-room track lights
  • πŸ“… 2026-09-12Trident ch 26 reported buzzing; not retested tonight. Trident Star Ground Link state unrecorded

🎯 GX input vs Catapult channel is a coin flip; the ground difference is near certain

⚠️ v1 ranking from 20:00 to 22:05. Superseded by the v3 line-up above.

  • C1 Imbalance inside GX4816 inputs 2 and 20

    Confidence: moderate

    Matched phantom resistors; a hot-patch with phantom on or a static event takes one out. Phantom LEDs look lit on some inputs in rows 1 and 2

  • C2 Imbalance in the mic-closet Catapult, channels 2 / 20

    Confidence: moderate

    Same symptom, different box. The swap test separates C1 from C2

  • C3 Ground potential difference drives every case

    Confidence: high

    High that it exists, given the open IG ground. Bonding the IG bus to service ground lowers the whole floor

  • C4 Phantom from two consoles on one line

    Confidence: low-moderate

    48 V pushed through the passive split into the other console's input network. Untested (T26 result missing)

  • C5 Split pair in the Cat6 termination

    Confidence: low

    Explains one channel but not surviving a full cable swap

  • C6 A specific noise load

    Confidence: unknown

    LED drivers, dimmers, Lorex camera PoE switch, PA amps on the GX auxes, HVAC. The all-off test (T33) never ran

βœ• Ruled out tonight:XLR patch cableCat6 as a cableSLinkSQ-7GX powerDPA snakeWall panelMic and mic cableTrident alone

βœ… v1 test list: seven short tests, now folded into the v3 tree

  1. D1Swap test⏱️ under 10 min

    Mic-closet Catapult out 2 into GX input 1, Catapult out 1 into GX input 2. Repeat with 20 and 16

    ➜ Buzz follows GX input 2 = GX input is the asymmetric part. Buzz stays on Trident ch 2 = asymmetry is upstream in the Catapult path

    Before (tonight)
    Catapult out 1out 2 GX4816 in 1in 2
    After the swap
    Catapult out 1out 2 GX4816 in 1in 2
    πŸ‘‚ Buzz moves to Trident ch 1 = GX input 2 is the fault. Replacement or A&H repair is justified
    πŸ‘‚ Buzz stays on Trident ch 2 = the fault is upstream, in the Catapult path
    πŸ” Then repeat with 20 and 16
  2. D2Second grounded device⏱️ under 10 min

    Catapult out 2 into a known-good grounded input (QSC or a spare preamp) instead of the GX

    ➜ Buzz = Catapult / pair side. No buzz = GX input

  3. D3Meter the grounds⏱️ under 10 min

    AC volts GX chassis to Trident chassis (long wire to the DMM), and between ground pins of the two racks' outlets, lights and HVAC on and off

    ➜ Above about 50 mV AC = a ground difference worth killing

  4. D4Temporary bond⏱️ under 10 min

    Heavy wire (12 AWG) between the mic-closet rack and the Trident chassis

    ➜ Buzz drops = ground difference confirmed; RX4M modules in the mic closet end the loop, and the IG bus bond lowers the voltage building-wide

  5. D5Phantom audit⏱️ under 10 min

    Read phantom on the Trident, SQ-7 and GX LEDs for 1, 2, 16, 20. Turn all four off and listen

    ➜ Shows whether C4 is in play

  6. D6All-off test (T33)⏱️ under 10 min

    Original Cat6 in, buzz audible, kill circuits one at a time: lighting, HVAC, PA amps, camera / network switch

    ➜ The circuit that silences it names the noise source

  7. D7Isolate the split⏱️ under 10 min

    Mic-level 1:1 isolation transformer on ch 2 between Catapult out and GX in (Radial TX4M/RX4M or an inline iso)

    ➜ Buzz gone = permanent fix: transformer-isolated modules in the mic closet

❓ Ten questions for Greg and Elijah close the gaps

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